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June 2005

Interregna talks to… Steve Turley of Corus

Steve Turley is Director of Compensation and Benefits at Corus. An HR specialist, he recruited interims through Interregna in his previous position at a major telecommunications company. Here, he gives his perspective on interim recruitment from the HR point of view.

As a long-standing Interregna client in his previous appointments, Steve has plenty of advice to those considering recruiting an interim manager. “Interims are particularly useful for companies in a state of transition. For many newer high-tech ventures, that may mean permanently; because the business is growing at such a rate.”

“You need to work out whether you need resource or additional skills. Sometimes the requirement is based on a resource squeeze, where there is no lack of expertise but a need for more hands to get the job done. Equally, as is often the case with compensation issues, the requirement is for specialisms which might not be covered in-house.”

“The HR field in general, and comp/bens in particular, is full of short to medium term project-based assigments which require an injection of specialist skills, from handling staff during a merger to recruiting teams for new departments.”

An interim is ideal for these situations:
Where a gap needs plugging, but by a specialist with direct experience of the challenge faced
Where an outsider can come in, apply their skills rapidly, and then go
Where high levels of expertise are required at short notice

Steve believes that much of the best HR talent is migratory in any case: “There are lots of HR consultants out there practising as individuals. They’re doing precisely what interests them most, and so by recruiting them you get a better product. The annual round (compensation, share schemes, benefits packages etc.) is a buzz first time round, but going through the motions isn’t that exciting for everyone. So interim management keeps the interest levels up and also ensures that we’re exposed to new best-practice or original approaches to old challenges. Plus of course, every interim carries their experience on to their next job.

That openness and transferability of skills is important in what is a fast-changing environment. “At board level, corporate governance is the current hot potato. The UK is the most governed country on the planet; although others are starting to catch up. Especially if you’re in a FTSE100 company, you’re being watched all the way. That’s partly due to scandals like Enron, but also shareholder pressure and media pressure: the City press is constantly excited about executive pay. But that means that people at the top of public companies live in a goldfish bowl. It’s often tough to get good non-executive directors because of the personal risks they take with the position. That’s affected the comp/bens landscape enormously. Within our own field, there’s constantly more regulation (admittedly much of it voluntary), but that leads to a “tickbox” approach of covering bases rather than either aspiring to new methodologies or making the best decisions. The fresh eyes of an interim manager allow one to reassess corporate priorities despite the pressure of regulation.

There are well-known risks to interim appointees, but Steve takes a phlegmatic view: “The classic objection to the appointment of an interim manager is that they won’t know the client organisation or its culture. Of course, that’s largely true of a new permanent appointee, too. I think the suddenness of an interim’s arrival can be both a good and a bad thing- and it’s up to the line manager or board to extract the best value. An interim’s lack of rose-tinted glasses could be good for addressing issues; but equally someone who is too pushy will disrupt the harmony of the team and cause more pain than they cure. The person needs to ‘fit’- they can’t be too pushy, but they also shouldn’t be a shrinking violet. The personality issue must be ironed out at the briefing and interview stage.

Steve also points out the importance- at every level of an organisation- of managing an interim. “every interim is responsible to someone; even if it’s the board. You have to remember that an interim basically isn’t answerable for what they leave behind. If you commissioned them, it’s your problem when they go. My advice is firstly, to remember that professional pride is important. Career interims are proud of what they achieve at each company they work for, and that’s what you should be looking for in a new appointee. And secondly, make sure you know what your interim has done and what their strategy is. It’s your job to know what’s happened when they later move on.

That said, it’s easier to monitor and manage an interim than a consultancy. “A consultancy will not necessarily sit with you in your office; no matter how effective a compensation scheme they design. They won’t necessarily get to understand your company’s culture or be hands-on enough to make a workable contribution. Plus, the consultancy route can often cost twice as much. A well-managed interim will not only deliver a scheme sensitive to the staff it actually applies to, but can be expected also to be there to see it implemented.”

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